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MR CAOLAN WALSH's avatar

this is valuable

Sinéad O’Sullivan's avatar

Thank you for reading!

Ruairi's avatar

Interesting article and I really enjoy the article. But could you argue that democracy, populism and democratic socialism act as balancing mechanisms on the capitalism accumulation? Europe and American capitalism have been going on for quite a long time? Capitalist democracies are in constant competition with each other. When too much capital accumulation happens, is usually causes bad policy that causes the underlying capital accumulation to falter and this continues until another self correction occurs

Sinéad O’Sullivan's avatar

Thanks for reading! Yes, democratic politics can act as a balancing mechanism, and historically it often has. But the point I’ve been circling across the “crackhead economy” series is that what’s doing the balancing matters.

Democracy and populism mostly operate on the *distribution mechanism*: elections punish outcomes (inequality, housing pain, wages, corruption), and that produces corrective cycles (regulation, welfare expansion, antitrust moments, etc.). That’s the “self-correction” you’re describing.

But what I think has become much more clear post-08 is when the coordination mechanism itself disappears and the mechanisms that allocates capital and maintains competition becomes structurally broken and captured.

At that point, the system can look like it’s self-correcting politically while actually failing mechanically. That's where I think we are now. Policies are being created and refined, but they are increasinly ineffective.

So I’m not claiming capitalist democracies can’t self-correct because they often have done. I’m asking whether, at our modern *scale* (financial abstraction + global capital mobility + media capture + low-trust politics), the correction cycles are still strong enough to prevent us moving towards dominance, or whether they’ve become more like oscillations around a worsening baseline. (I suspect the latter).

That’s why I think the idea of a constraint-based architecture is interesting, as a different way of preventing the compounding channels from running away in the first place!

https://www.butthistime.com/p/how-to-fix-a-crackhead-economy-addicted-323

Quy Ma's avatar

Insightful read. The idea that incentives compound but constraints just hold the line is fascinating. A lot of reform feels like we’re turning knobs instead of rethinking the walls.

Sinéad O’Sullivan's avatar

Thank you! Indeed, a lot of reform debates are about calibration (change the tax rate, capital requirements, add an oversight board...)

But if the underlying system compounds and structurally accelerates accumulation or control, then small adjustments just slightly alter the speed, but don't change direction...

Constraints are different because they change the actual geometry of the system. The open question is whether constraint-first systems can maintain legitimacy at scale without disintegrating into hypocrisy like our current system seems to be doing....!

The Policy Minaret's avatar

This was very insightful. Do take a look at thepolicyminaret.com for more examples of alternative governance models that may surprise you!

Kartikay Gupta's avatar

Really enjoyed this. The incentive-first versus constraint-first framing is genuinely clarifying and I haven’t seen it put quite that way before.

The thing I keep coming back to though is the enforcement question, and I think you actually identify it yourself with the cathedral metaphor but maybe move past it a bit quickly. The constraints in Islamic economics didn’t hold because of good architecture. They held because they were sacred, which meant the community genuinely policed them horizontally without needing a state apparatus. That’s elegant, you’re right. But sacred is doing an enormous amount of work there. In a pluralistic modern society, what makes a constraint actually stick at that level? Law can be captured. Culture can be eroded. Religion requires shared belief. So the interesting question your piece leaves me with is not whether constraint-first design is better in theory, because I think you make a compelling case that it is, but where the binding force comes from in a secular context. What is the secular equivalent of haram?

Ahmed Jarar Abbasi's avatar

I really like your comment. I found myself thinking the exact same thing as I read this piece. From my understanding, in the early centuries Islam - Islam still spread over areas where the vast majority of the population was not Muslim.

In such cases, Muslims had to pay zakat - which is not enforced by the state but done so by the individuals themselves.

Non Muslims had to pay jizya - a tax that was usually lesser than the zakat Muslims had to pay (if I’m not wrong). This was collected by the state I think.

(This model doesn’t work in a secular state - only an explicitly Muslim state - otherwise you can’t justify any form of economic discrimination on the basis of religion.)

I wonder if the joint inclusion of zakat and jizya creates a structure that can work for a large population which has multiple religious groups? But I’m not very sure about this.

The other point I find interesting is that even in a fully Muslim state like Pakistan where 90-99% of the population is Muslim - these models work to the degree that the people adhere to the values of Islam.

I know many Muslims who take zakat very seriously - who avoid interest like the plague. I also know many Muslims who - while identifying as Muslims - find it okay to take interest. They don’t take that too seriously.

This model seems to work very well only when a large amount of people actively adhere to the beliefs. I wonder what the threshold is.

Josh's avatar

So your question is, would this only work in a pious society? How can we generate a constraints-based approach to the economy in a secular society? The reason why it works well in Islam is because people are deeply religious and these aren't just social norms to them, they are commandments from the perfect knowledge of an all powerful creator.

Sarmad Abbasi's avatar

Genuinely valuable read, you have succintly put into words what the case is for many people across the islamic world and a mindset that many muslims hold. My father successfully grew a furniture business in Pakistan for 10 years to a point where any further growth would require a big capital injection. Once he realised that capital of that magnitude could only be arranged via interest bearing instruments, he simply just..... stopped growing. The business has had the same revenue figures (adjusted for inflation) to this day only to uphold what he considers to be a moral principle.

Although this concept may irk the likes of Peter thiel and Sam Altman, knowing what not to do no matter what has taken away the slippery slope you have described of never knowing how much is too much when it comes to capital accumulation.

Once again, great read!

SE HQ's avatar

Great read. Conditional ownership is important for accountability reasons. Poor ownership can actually cause more damage to a community. Decentralized redistribution is important also, I think of a healthy peer-to-peer network as a regenerative ecosystem that innovates and scales are parties involved.

Rob Rabinowitz's avatar

I am very interested in this framing and the willingness to investigate older religious traditions for how their wisdom can help to address major societal challenges. I don’t agree, however, with the degree of weight you place on Islamic finance as the primary source of answers. The Bible also has quite strict limits on economic power, prohibiting interest on loans and mandating periodic land redistribution. In the Talmud, however, many of these absolute rules were adapted by the rabbis where they were felt to be counter-productive. For example, they worried that the prohibition against interest would reduce the availability of credit. They seem to have been motivated by the need to strike a balance between exploitation of the economically vulnerable and the need to attract resources for legitimate economic purposes. I don’t know whether they got the balance right, but I think that this shows that single solutions or even single systems probably cannot address every challenge and there needs to be a pragmatic openness to multiple options from different traditions as well as innovation.

Matias Gonzalez's avatar

Did you know that each time someone says "communism = equality", a kitty tragically passes away

THE WELL WISHER's avatar

....This tells us that the binding constraint on economic systems is not, ultimately, structural at all. It’s human. Which is both obvious and somehow perpetually forgotten by economists, who continue to build models that assume people will behave rationally, or at least predictably, despite all available evidence to the contrary....

“What must never be allowed to happen, regardless????

then the real divide is not left versus right, or market versus state. It is between systems that amplify dynamics because they lack limits, and systems that attempt to impose one.... GRATITUDE ❣️....

M. Saad Khan's avatar

It's an amazing take on Islamic economic systems. Btw, if you ever get time, explore how Islam preserve its culture? If there's a specific method in place, we may have one problem solved on it.

Sourabh's avatar

But if we think about a constraint based model , we can think of constraints in terms of how much wealth can someone accumulate , then right to property , then we can put constraints upon professions children of bureaucrats won’t be bureaucrats, thus ending dynastic politics

Nithya Sridharan's avatar

I re read this again. Wonderful piece as always! And the artworks were really well curated too.

minhaj ali's avatar

Amazing! You beautifully described it. Have you gone through Baqir Al Sadr's work "Our Economics". He had written a great deal on Islamic Economics.

Julita Ramsunder's avatar

This was such a great piece and wonderful perspective on how we think through economic systems. I would add that the one inherent danger of the Islamic style system is who or how this moral code is defined - this is another way it can devolve into something dangerous. You could have the same structure but different codes which could lead to very different end states.

However, this brings into focus what type of questions we should be asking more of when designing structures.